Joshua Clover


On his book 1989: Bob Dylan Didn’t Have This to Sing About

Cover Interview of February 23, 2010

Editor’s note

Originally, this interview ran on the Rorotoko cover page under the headline

“I am not smashing together the high and the low just because I can.”

We highlighted two quotes.

On the first page:

“If history has in fact ended (as Francis Fukuyama famously claimed), or if the capacity to think historically has disappeared, this has dismaying consequences. Foremost among them is the inability to imagine that the arrangements of daily life, so immiserating for so many, can ever again be open to debate, criticism, or real change.”

On the second:

“The Jesus Jones song itself knows about Francis Fukuyama. But not just that. I think it’s cognizant of the famous passage from Ulysses where Stephen Dedalus says that history is ‘a nightmare from which I am trying to awake.’  Which is in turn Joyce working through Hegel and Marx.”